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Comparing light systems: I heart (insert Hue or Eglo here)

If you're a fan of smart lighting, you'll probably end up looking at the market leader Philips Hue at some point. At least that's what happened to me. Now my lights have had an interesting visitor. The Eglo Connect products link up without any Internet connection.

The more connected my home becomes, the busier it gets behind the router. The Hue Bridge is already rubbing shoulders with Homematic IP's access point and a Gigaset IP base station. Meanwhile, the last free ethernet port has been snapped up by iSmartAlarm. That’s all well and good but I’ve ended up with the thing I was trying to avoid: cables flying all over the place like spaghetti.

The Eglo Connect light system appeals to me right off the bat because it ignores the Internet completely. It sets up its own network and keeps everything connected and working even without a bridge. How, you may ask? Mesh technology – thanks to a collaboration between the Austrian-run Eglo and the French chip manufacturer AwoX.

Their (common) mesh involves connecting individual lamps up to each other via Bluetooth and passing along commands. The maximum distance the lamps can be is 15 metres. «Standing lamp to pendant light, dim. Spread the word!» – «Sorted. Pendant light to kitchen lamp, dim. Oh yeah, and tell the bedroom lamp to switch off.» That’s more or less how the Bluetooth whisper works. Basically, you only need your smartphone or remote control within range of the lamp to be able to control everything. Even if you’re offline.

Go pink at the touch of a button – or any of the 16 million colours available with the Eglo Connect Standard

This approach is interesting but it has the disadvantage of not working properly with Hue and other systems as they connect wirelessly and rely on the Zigbee wireless network standard. However, products from Hue, Osram Lightify and IKEA Trådfri can talk to each other easily. Eglo Connect faces a huge market power. Although it allows the Hue Bridge to incorporate into the system via its AwoX app (iOSAndroid). This means you can still control Hue lights. But once you’ve opted for Hue and Co., you’re unlikely to switch. And if you decide to go for the cheaper Eglo Connect solution, it’s not like you buy any Hue bridges or other Hue products to try and control an Eglo system. But I’m still intrigued so I replace a lamp in my home with an Eglo one for a while. Fortunately, I still have a cosy little E27 to offer.

Eglo and the Hue family

There’s one area where Eglo outshines the competition. And that’s in hosting the brightest E27 bulbs. The manufacturer achieves a rich 1,300 lumen, which is more or less equivalent to an 80 watt halogen lamp. I screw in the standard bulb, which at 806 lumen and 9 watt power consumption is supposed to give me as much light as my Hue White & Ambiance (9.5 watt). The difference is it can light up in different colours. But Eglo don’t make you pay extra for that like Philips do for their more expensive White & Color Ambiance.

Installing the Eglo bulb is so straightforward there’s not much to say about it: load the app, activate Bluetooth, hook it up – it’s not exactly rocket science and I don’t need to crawl behind the sofa to fumble about with the router or bridge. It’s even easier with the remote control. Turn the lamp on. Press and hold down the on button for three seconds. Done. It works for me. I also set up an Eglo Connect Stripe. Now I can start grouping the lights together in the app and programming them.

These three products have set up home with me on a trial basis:

  • Leuchtmittel (E27, 806lm, 9W)
  • Leuchtmittel (E27, 806lm, 9W)
  • Leuchtmittel (E27, 806lm, 9W)
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CHF 39.70
Eglo Connect Leuchtmittel (E27, 806lm, 9W)
A smart solution for your home.
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  • Kriens: today at 13:00
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  • Connect remote control
  • Connect remote control
  • Connect remote control
CHF 27.–
Eglo Connect Connect remote control
A smart solution for your home.

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  • Basel: tomorrow at 12:30
  • Bern: today at 17:00
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  • Geneva: tomorrow at 14:00
  • Kriens: today at 13:00
  • Lausanne: tomorrow at 12:30
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  • Stripe-c (500cm, Warm white, Neutral White, Cold White, RGBW)
  • Stripe-c (500cm, Warm white, Neutral White, Cold White, RGBW)
  • Stripe-c (500cm, Warm white, Neutral White, Cold White, RGBW)
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CHF 99.–
Eglo Connect Stripe-c (500cm, Warm white, Neutral White, Cold White, RGBW)
A smart solution for your home.

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  • Kriens: today at 13:00
  • Lausanne: tomorrow at 12:30
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I’ve also added the Hue Bridge to the AwoX app so I can now include my Hue lamps. Welcome to the family, Hue. I normally use three Hue White & Ambiance lights along with three Hue White lamps controlled by two dimmer switches and a motion sensor to create the right lighting. With the addition of the multi-coloured glow from Eglo’s latest addition, I can now ponder the advantages and disadvantages of both systems.

My long-lasting Philips:

  • Hue White Ambiance Extension (E27, 806lm, 9.50W)
  • Hue White Ambiance Extension (E27, 806lm, 9.50W)
  • Hue White Ambiance Extension (E27, 806lm, 9.50W)
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CHF 36.–
Philips Hue White Ambiance Extension (E27, 806lm, 9.50W)
Choose the ideal lighting mood for any time of day.
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  • Hue White Erweiterung (E27, 800lm, 9.50W)
  • Hue White Erweiterung (E27, 800lm, 9.50W)
  • Hue White Erweiterung (E27, 800lm, 9.50W)
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CHF 24.90
Philips Hue White Erweiterung (E27, 800lm, 9.50W)
Let your creativity run wild - with Hue.
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  • Hue Bridge
  • Hue Bridge
  • Hue Bridge
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Philips Hue Bridge
Let your creativity run wild - with Hue
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  • Hue Wireless Dimmer Switch
  • Hue Wireless Dimmer Switch
  • Hue Wireless Dimmer Switch
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Philips Hue Wireless Dimmer Switch
Let your creativity run wild - with Hue
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  • Hue Motion detector
  • Hue Motion detector
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Philips Hue Motion detector
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The possibilities are endless

Philips Hue isn’t the market leader for nothing. The system offers numerous possibilities for smart home enthusiasts when it comes to extending, remote controlling and setting up rules for IFTTT – If This Then That. The extensive range of products is compatible with those from other manufacturers that use the same wireless standard. There’s also the fact Philips Hue boasts a well-engineered app, which is different to other apps and, in my opinion, features better designed remote controls. If price isn’t a big issue and if you make good use of all the features, this is a worthwhile buy. Community member Sonico100 dubs it the resource every adult relationship needs.

We couldn’t have described life with Philips Hue better

Extend it bit by bit (or bulb by bulb)

Eglo Connect uses Bluetooth and doesn’t rely on the Internet. Now you may see that as a positive or a negative. On the one hand, you can forgo the Bridge, and the components create a closed system that can’t be accessed from outside. You can also use the app to set up groups and routines – i.e. what, when and how you want lights to turn on and off. This means you can set the bedroom lamp to wake you up with a sunrise-like feature (gradual brightness) or make it seem like someone is home when you’re actually out.

The commands save to the lights themselves and then run automatically. However, once that’s done you can’t alter it remotely. You can’t even use voice commands in Google Home and the like with the basic version. To stop you losing connection, Eglo has built in a bridge after all. The Connect Plug Plus does admittedly put an end to the closed system but it makes up for it by giving you more scope. You can even add in a motion sensor, and it gives you a large selection of lamps and lighting options.

Right, that’s enough of all the stats and specs. Now let’s look at our own experience with the lighting systems.

The stalemate in bulb design and remote controls makes the simple Hue dimmer switch stand out for me

Day-to-day Eglo

I was initially somewhat wary. I’m used to the dim Hue Ambiance light and so it takes me a while to find settings on the Eglo Connect that I feel comfortable with. But when you’ve got 16 million colours and 50,000 shades of white to choose from, there’s bound to be something that fits the bill. In terms of controls, the remote manages the lights seamlessly. It lets you switch between colours, dim the lights, save your favourite and select it at the touch of a button. Unfortunately, the remote lags behind slightly in the fashion department. It seems like it’s still stuck in the 90s, looking like a cheap TV remote – it’s not as unassuming as the Hue dimmer switch. But while the Hue looks good, it’s not as practical since I have to press a button to click through all my favourites.

The Eglo AwoX app is also in the OK-but-didn’t-blow-my-socks-off category. Its disco mode is the only thing that verges on playful. The lights flash to the beat of the music when you give the app access to the microphone. Apart from that, I mainly use it to manage the basic settings. When you switch on the lights, it always takes a few moments for the Bluetooth connection to establish. But once it’s there, it’s steady. It didn’t ever fail to connect and I didn’t encounter any big problems with Eglo Connect. The only thing that threw me was the attempts to reset the Light Stripe using this circuit diagram for stopwatch fanatics.

The app is clear and runs on my phone without ever crashing. And yet I’d still rather use a remote control

Final thoughts

I love Hue. And I’m not about to switch. But I still like Eglo Connect and my experience with their lights made me a bit more matter-of-fact. You’ve either got lights on, lights off, lights grouped together or lights automated and adjusted to the right mood at the touch of a button. In most cases, you’re unlikely to need any more than that. If you don’t use smart lighting yet and you’re after a simple system with basic features that can be extended in a «smart» way, The Eglo Connect is worth a closer look.

The system also fared well when the product-testing magazine «Connect» put it through its paces. Eglo Connect also has the advantage of being great in places that don’t have Internet. So if you’re lucky enough to have a holiday home, this system is a no-brainer. I’d certainly install one in my holiday home. Now if only I had one.

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Luck is fleeting, so I keep moving. On my bike, on the ball (size and colour are unimportant) and with everything stemming from two kids’ imagination. I love to give into play and give coincidences a chance. After all, if the journey is the reward, we should make it a nice one.

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User Cokiz1985

mein Favorit ist die Xiaomi Yeelight. Digitec, schaut euch die genauer an...die müsstet Ihr eigentlich aufnehmen.

22.01.2019
User Michael Restin

Den Input gebe ich gerne weiter!

23.01.2019
User SlimPress

Es gibt mittlerweile recht viele Zigbee Lampen die sich mit der Hue bridge einbinden lassen (oder umgekehrt). Ikea, Trust, Xiaomi/Yeelight und viele weitere. Lampen einbinden geht eigentlich immer, nur mit den Sensoren gibts keine Lösung

23.01.2019
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User Mizz141

Persönlich finde ich das TRADFRI system von Ikea am besten, billig in der anschaffung und funktioniert per Gateway mit Alexa und Co. zudem kann ich diese auch an das HUE system anbinden...

23.01.2019
User vomwald

Ich habe bei mir seit Jahren LIFX Birnen. Es funktioniert alles einwandfrei. Die Möglichkeiten sind Dank Alexa, IFTTT etc schier endlos. Digitec / Galaxus hatte die früher teilweise im Sortiment, sie sind aber leider irgendwie rausgeflogen...

23.01.2019
User gramanuel

Wie sieht es bei Eglo aus beim Thema Flickering? Hue sind zwar teuer, sind aber auch fast flicker frei. Selbst bei Zeitlupenaufnahmen sieht man kaum Veränderungen des beleuchteten Bereichs. Ikea und andere LED Lampen wirken bei solchen Aufnahmen wie ein Strobo. Flickering wird immer mehr ein Thema bei Schlafstörungen, übermüdeten Augen bis hin zur Migräne.

23.01.2019
User Michael Restin

Interessanter Punkt. Beim Fotografieren hatte ich keine Probleme damit. Eglo gibt keinen Flicker-Index an. Dieser Test einer anderen LED von Eglo deutet zumindest darauf hin, dass der Hersteller das Thema im Griff hat.

23.01.2019
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User CysteK

Super Artikel, vielen Dank.

Ich bin selbst am konfigurieren der HUE inkl. IFTTT un netatmo.

Mir ist Sicherheit sehr wichtig, da ich nicht möchte das jemand mein zuegs steuert.

Ich habe dazu ein eigenes V-Lan erstellt, welches ein eigenes W-Lan hat.
Ich möchte nun wirklich nur das zulassen was nötig ist in den firewall regeln.

Weiss jemand von euch die Ports und öffentliche IPs die man zulassen muss für HUE, IFTTT, Netatmo?

24.01.2019
User Hexentanz

Das mit dem V-Lan wäre nicht nötig gewesen eigentlich.
Mit IFTTT machst du dir eigentlich selbst eine direkte Schwachstelle.

HUE kann nicht einfach Ferngesteuert werden, wenn sich jemand in dein LAN "hackt".
Selbst mit bekannter HUE Bridge IP und Port kann man diese nicht Steuern,
da die Befehle einen Auth brauchen, einen Hash, der für jeden Benutzer generiert wird.

Benutzer Anlagen geht nur mit physikalischem Drücken des Tasters auf der Bridge.

Habe bei mir zuhause iobroker als "Hirn" meiner Smarthome Visualisierung, und da ists jedenfalls so,
dass man ohne Auth auf der HUE nichts abfragen geschweige denn Injecten kann.

Greets

06.02.2019
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User DigiMermar

Hallo. Was bei Zradfri leider nicht geht:Eine Birne mit mehreren Schaltern kombinieren. Konkret: zwei Bewegungsmelder die 1 (!) Lampe ein-aus schalten. Ich hab nen Gang, den ich von beiden Seiten her betrete und da soll 1 Lampe angehen (und nach 1Min. wieder aus).
Kriegt man das mit Hue hin? Also 1 E27-Lampe mit mehr als einem Schalter/Bewegungssensor koppeln? Danke für Feedback.

24.01.2019
User CysteK

Ha witzig
Das hab ich noch nie probiert, aber man kann doch bei jeder anzahl klicks oder so wählen welche Lampe es betrifft? (ich denke mit den schaltern sollte es gehen, bewegungsmelder habe ich leider noch keine.

ich könnte das sonst am Wochenende ausprobieren wenn ich dann wirklich zwei schalter habe, bin mir gerade nicht sicher...

24.01.2019
User DigiMermar

Also bei TRÅDFRI gehts weder mit Schaltern noch mit Bewegungsmelder. Auch lässt sich eine Lampe (Birne) nur 1 Raum zuordnen, was ich noch einigermassen logisch finde.

24.01.2019
User EXT669

Ja. Das geht mit hue.

25.01.2019
User DigiMermar

Hmm, ist das korrekt, dass dies "nur" mit der App von Stefan Göhler funktioniert und auch erst seit 19.12.2018 (?) Ich hoffe mal, dass IKEA sich solches auch anschaut und ihre Produkte entsprechend updatet. Danke für Deine Rückmeldung Ext669 ;-)

25.01.2019
User DigiMermar

Ach ja, hier die Quelle: ehome-news.de/philips-hue-u...

25.01.2019
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User PrahaBasler

Was bei Hue störend oder anders gesagt schade ist... wenn die Hue Lampe mit einem Lichtschalter gekoppelt wird, hat es keien "Memory" Funktion, das heisst es schaltet automatisch wieder auf weiss. Sensationell wäre es, wenn es wieder auf die Ursprungsfarbe zurückkehrt. Schade um Hue welches ich nicht mehr als Farbenspiel nutze.

24.01.2019
User sb1995

Meine Hue hatte kürzlich (glaube letzte Woche) ein Firmware-Update, nachdem ich die Möglichkeit hatte, einzustellen, ob die Lampe beim nächsten Einschalten auf die Standard-Einstellung oder die zuletzt verwendete Einstellung setzt. Könnte somit sein, dass es mittlerweile funktioniert. Allerdings weiss ich nicht, ob dies auch bei einer zwischenzeitlichen Trennung der Stromversorgung, wie dies bei einem klassischen Lichtschalter der Fall ist, funktioniert.

24.01.2019
User CysteK

Hallo Zusammen

Ich habe nur die dimmbaren lampen.
Wenn ich den stromschalter der lampe anlasse und via hue fernbedinung dimme, ausschalte und wieder anschalte ist die dimmstufe immer noch die selbe wie vor dem ausschalten.

Wenn ich der HUE birne den strom ganz weg nehme zwischen durch speichert es die dimmstufe nicht.

Letzte woche habe ich das getestet.

24.01.2019
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